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Kinito
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Joined 07-11-2013 status: Newcomer |
Hi Motif heads, Can someone please let me know the best synth sound on MOTIF XF to use with a Talk box for voice manipulation? I have tried some but I am not happy Please help me. |
DavePolich
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Joined 07-27-2002 status: Guru |
Do you mean a vocoder? Or are you
Or are you trying to find a talkbox VOICE
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Way_ne
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Joined 01-26-2003 status: Guru |
The goal might be some Daft Punk Talk box-style stuff. |
BC Powdaland
Total Posts: 14
Joined 03-10-2012 status: Regular |
does anyone here use a banshee talkbox with their XF? |
DavePolich
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Joined 07-27-2002 status: Guru |
Well, the guy hasn’t replied to his own post in a long time, so I guess he
Which he should have - because the “talk box” sound isn’t something that
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Bad_Mister
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Joined 07-30-2002 status: Moderator |
Or you can use a keyboard synth as the source of audio, but you do need a separate box (so called “Talk Box"). It uses your mouth as a vocal cavity/chamber - it will rattle your fillings! :-) But a keyboard easily could be the source signal, ala Roger Troutman (used a Yamaha DX100 as his source), Sly Stone, Steveland Morris… The Vocoder is quite different, it’s what you hear on many of the Daft Punk songs. It’s the “robot voice” sound. The Motif XF has a vocoder. You can feed a “talk box” with signal from the XF. For a talk box you need a tube that routes the sound to your mouth where you “shape” the audio with your oral cavity. You have to have a microphone connected to the sound system to pick up the acoustic output of your mouth… So not only are you chewing on a tube but you’re up close on that microphone too. The Vocoder the microphone signal is used to modify a synth sound. The mic is actually plugged into the keyboard. The pitch component is totally based on the note or notes played… So the noise component of the source (you disturbing air in front of the mic) is applied to the pitch of the notes you are playing. Both offer unique sound effects, but are generated in entirely different ways. Often one is incorrectly identified as the other. With that understanding, perhaps the original poster’s question is that they already know the difference and are asking which sound from the XF would work best as the audio source to feed to a “talk box” - and to that I’d only offer you’ll have to try several and see what works best. For example, with a Vocoder, the more “noise” in the synth sound, the more intelligible the Vocoding. It will be different for the Talk Box. In general, I’d recommend one with an organ envelope. Meaning “DECAY 2 LEVEL” of the Amplitude Envelope Generator is maximum. So that as long as you hold a note you have signal ...this may help make it more natural to control the sound… You will be coordinating playing and singing, if the envelope of the loudness of the sound is difficult to articulate you’ll find it difficult to perform. Sounds that die out naturally may not allow you “say” what you need to say without re triggering every syllable… So you’ll have to experiment with the type of thing you are playing/saying. |
Kinito
Total Posts: 2
Joined 07-11-2013 status: Newcomer |
Guys, Actualy I have a separate talkbox device, a Bangee 2 but I cannot find a good tone on my MOTIF XF to manipulate it. Sorry for the late reply. |
DavePolich
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Joined 07-27-2002 status: Guru |
You are not going to find a “good voice” on the XF for your talk box unit. Because you need to use a talk box just as it was intended - playing with the tube inserted in your mouth and YOU talk into it while your playing. In other words, the “talking” requires
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