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I_Too_Say_So_Long
Total Posts: 728
Joined 09-20-2011 status: Guru |
edited… :) |
I_Too_Say_So_Long
Total Posts: 728
Joined 09-20-2011 status: Guru |
I haven’t been disappointed yet with the many sounds offered within the ‘Category Search’ area.
(we use Yamaha 400’s plugged into the back of the XF to listen with, but also have a variety of other makers all within the $200 to $300 price range that all sound about the same but with different ‘feels’ while wearing, and abilities to isolate sound, which they all are closed back… Keep volume reasonable!)
The Category Search button beneath Program top and right can be used before and after a recording has been made and from the Mixing Area whether in Song or Pattern mode.
....certainly missing too, “The Bad One”! :)
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chasmanian
Total Posts: 319
Joined 01-27-2014 status: Enthusiast |
I second the motion. indubitably!! hahahahha
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cmayhle
Total Posts: 3116
Joined 10-05-2011 status: Guru |
First, I would highly recommend you begin with This Article from Bad_Mister. It’s been a while since I set up my personal piano VOICES, and my machine is packed up right now, so some of the specific filter tweaks I can’t check on right now. However, I can say the two most important things I do right off the bat: Turn off the reverb. Reverb at the VOICE level for me in live performance is an annoyance. EQ to eliminate the “in a well”, or “in a tin can”, or “in a box” sound that piano PRESETS pretty much all come with (to my ears). My piano EQ set-up pretty much take a “U” configuration; I boost the low and high ends, and I roll down the mids, especially in the 400hz to 1100hz range. This takes the common boomy and muddy sound out, and provides crisp clean piano with a powerful bottom punch. It is most common for me to find the tone color I do not like in the mid-range frequencies. I am not a programmer or sound designer, but I know the sound I am looking for when I hear it, and the above steps are where I commonly start when searching for a solution. Plus of course, filter settings at the element level, resonance and cutoff adjustments...these are the tweaks I would need to have access to my machine to discuss. The take-away is that you have the ability within the machine to have a profound affect on the tone and color of the stock piano sounds. Don’t play a stock piano and say “I don’t like it”, and walk away frustrated or disgruntled. Change it into a VOICE you really like. The tools are there. I highly recommend the Bad_Mister article. |
chasmanian
Total Posts: 319
Joined 01-27-2014 status: Enthusiast |
you are incredibly generous. thank you so much cmayhle. |
RafalSC
Total Posts: 102
Joined 08-13-2011 status: Pro |
I had a similar problem. Only the piano Kawai EX is good for the Motif XF - better than the S90 ES! |
californiamusic
Total Posts: 125
Joined 08-10-2003 status: Pro |
Interesting topic. I own a S90es, XS8, and have owned a XF8. The S700 piano is my favorite piano sample to date. I have it loaded in my XS8, and it is abit different. Keep in mind, they tell you the samples of the S700 for the XS/XF are “Looped”, and I hear the difference.. although it is slight, you can hear the loop. I’ve compared them side by side thoroughly. And as others have said, the synth engines are all different in each keyboard. The ES/S90es lines are brighter sounding to my ear. If you love the S700 piano like I do.. the S90es is the board! Many artists (David Foster, etc.) Still currently use the S90es for that very reason. ; ) |
jamiesea
Total Posts: 10
Joined 07-27-2017 status: Newcomer |
I just bought a used S90 ES and found an S90 XS to try side by side. The S90 ES came first and so far love it but wanted more features like playing WAV files back and being able to hit record when you have some inspiration. I was wondering how they sound side by side? Is the DAC a better DAC in the XS than the ES? I heard the MoXF has the DAC1 and people say it sounds better than the S90 XS. If so, can one really tell or is it splitting hairs? Thanks! |
5pinDIN
Total Posts: 11891
Joined 09-16-2010 status: Legend |
Since this post is unrelated to the Motif XF, anyone replying please do so at the identical post in the S90 forum:
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jamiesea
Total Posts: 10
Joined 07-27-2017 status: Newcomer |
Thanks 5pinDIN! I just realized after posting my question to search for an S90 forum and found it! Appreciate the help! |