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Posted on: October 02, 2009 @ 01:41 AM
okdk
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I’m trying to make a multisample, when I sample a note I set the range and loop start and stop, but it makes a click noise every time it loops.  I’ve tried to change the loop start and end points but it doesn’t mater.  Am I doing something wrong?

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Posted on: October 04, 2009 @ 11:09 PM
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Not necessarily. The looping of a sample is often a difficult thing - it is as much art as science.

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Posted on: October 07, 2009 @ 03:21 PM
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Bad_Mister - 04 October 2009 11:09 PM

Not necessarily. The looping of a sample is often a difficult thing - it is as much art as science.

I have the same issue.  Is there some article or video you know of that could show in more detail how to make a clickless loop on a sample?  I understand the principle, but applying to the particulars of the XS is another matter.  Some further insights would be appreciated.

Thanks

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Posted on: September 29, 2010 @ 12:39 PM
TraneOfThought
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Clicks are from another sound that you have in your loop that you didn’t want, just shorten the loop end and that should stop the clicks

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Posted on: September 29, 2010 @ 01:51 PM
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Clicks are from abrupt amplitude changes.

Its not art. Just zoom in (a lot!) on the waveform and make sure the amplitude at the beginning and end of the clip cross zero.  Also at the end of the clip, follow the wave… if it is falling make sure it is falling in the beginning of the clip so it is in phase.

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Posted on: October 02, 2010 @ 02:25 PM
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It is art… even zoomed way in, a perfect looking loop (at a 0 amplitude cross-point can sound like a click) If everyone could do it, there would be more than a few programmers in the country… It is a rather small community of (really) good synth programmers.

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Posted on: October 08, 2010 @ 07:51 PM
Bboy On N On
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have you tried playing with the Attack of the sample? that might help get rid of the click.

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Posted on: November 27, 2010 @ 01:24 PM
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The secret behind non clicking loops is called loop crossfade.
Unfortunately the Motif does not have this function but fortunately
there is software that does this and is called

Motif Waveform Editor

http://www.jmelas.gr/motif/wave.php

Hope this helps!

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Posted on: November 22, 2015 @ 09:14 AM
Michiel D
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Hi John,

Can the editor also be used for editing samples made/ used on a Motif ES?
The ES isn’t mentioned ....

Can you edit samples with this software without using other software for the Motif?
I want to use as les software as possible as installing it an making it communicate with my synth is not something I’m very good at/ something I like to spend my time on (learning how to....).

In other words, can you just install the sample editor, import a sample (from a Usb stick), edit the sample (the art of crossfading :  ) and load the edited sample back into the Motif?

Thanks for some extra info, John!

Kind regards, Michael

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Posted on: November 22, 2015 @ 10:57 AM
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Michiel D - 22 November 2015 09:14 AM

[...] Can the editor also be used for editing samples made/ used on a Motif ES?
The ES isn’t mentioned ....

John Melas will likely get back to you eventually.

As far as I know, the Motif XS/XF and MOXF are the supported models.

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Posted on: January 06, 2016 @ 04:04 AM
Fnord
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Michiel D - 22 November 2015 09:14 AM


In other words, can you just install the sample editor, import a sample (from a Usb stick), edit the sample (the art of crossfading :  ) and load the edited sample back into the Motif?

You might also take a look at Awave studio. I think this software can read/write files in native Motif ES format and can generate crossfade loops. So you should be able to load your Motif file from a stick in Awave, edit the waveforms and save it back to the stick in Motif ES format. It can also convert between many sampler formats.

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Posted on: May 19, 2018 @ 12:42 AM
dsetto
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When applying crossfade in Melas’ Waveform Editor, does it “bake” it in to the sample? Does it double the length of the original sample?

Sample Flashback!

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