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Viewing topic "Motif XF6 - can’t assign midi CC over 95??"

     
Posted on: February 26, 2015 @ 02:47 PM
jazzmannnn
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In the Master mode, i want to assign slider #1 to send CC #100, wich is a separate volume control for the organ engine of my Nord Stage2. I can’t select any CC over 95… WHY??

Thanks!

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Posted on: February 26, 2015 @ 03:57 PM
cmayhle
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You might take a look at This Thread.

You might find a solution to the problem Here.

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Posted on: February 26, 2015 @ 05:31 PM
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If you read the MIDI spec, the CCs between 96 and 102 are for NRPNs:

MIDI CC
96 (+1) Data Increment Usually used to increment data for RPN and NRPN messages.

MIDI CC
97 (-1) Data Decrement Usually used to decrement data for RPN and NRPN messages.

MIDI CC
98 Non-Registered Parameter Number LSB (NRPN) For controllers 6, 38, 96, and 97, it selects the NRPN parameter.

MIDI CC
99 Non-Registered Parameter Number MSB (NRPN) For controllers 6, 38, 96, and 97, it selects the NRPN parameter.

MIDI CC
100 Registered Parameter Number LSB (RPN) For controllers 6, 38, 96, and 97, it selects the RPN parameter.

MIDI CC
101 Registered Parameter Number MSB (RPN) For controllers 6, 38, 96, and 97, it selects the RPN parameter.

Vendors who use these CCs for other purposes are violating the MIDI spec, so incompatibility is to be expected.

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Posted on: February 27, 2015 @ 01:55 AM
jazzmannnn
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Vendors who use these CCs for other purposes are violating the MIDI spec, so incompatibility is to be expected.

Thanks for the answer, but do you mean that they don’t respect MIDI protocol or something like this?

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Posted on: February 27, 2015 @ 09:48 AM
meatballfulton
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Yes, that is what I mean. Use of nonstandard CC assignments by some manufacturers causes compatibility issues with mfrs like Yamaha who stick to the spec religiously.

The “correct” way would be for Nord to use NRPNs when they run out of CCs below 96, since that is what they are for. With NRPNs, a mfr can specify over 16,000 new controls.

Nord is not the only company doing this...Moog, Access, Novation, DSI all play loose with CC assignments.

Anyway, I think you are out of luck.

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Posted on: February 27, 2015 @ 10:37 AM
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A MIDI Event Processor should be able to solve the problem, by remapping CC#.

MIDI Solutions (see link cmayhle provided) is even a Canadian company.  :-)

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