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Posted on: January 30, 2015 @ 01:33 PM
chasmanian
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hey gang,

I was looking through the Data List at all the Drum kits on my Motif XF8.
I have searched and found nothing about the following:
what about connecting the Motif XF to an electronic drum kit?

and being able to control the Motif’s many drum sounds with the electronic drum kit?
would it be such a pain, to map it all, that it really would not be worth the trouble?
I know that there are computer programs, drum VST’s, that have mapping for drum kits already built into them.
any ideas, anybody?

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Posted on: January 30, 2015 @ 02:26 PM
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The Motif drum kit mapping is mostly based on the GM (General MIDI) standard. (Look at the GM kit mapping and compare some others to it.) Many electronic kits are also mapped that way. Some editing might be required, and obviously that could vary with the chosen XF kit and the electronic drum controller.

If you don’t already have an electronic kit, but are considering getting one, I’d suggest downloading a manual first to see how easily things can be reassigned, if necessary.

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Posted on: January 30, 2015 @ 02:42 PM
chasmanian
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thank you very much.
I have a roland vdrum set.
I will check the manual.

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Posted on: January 30, 2015 @ 04:51 PM
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There’s no question that triggering your drum sounds from a set of MIDI drum pads will give you immeasurably more realistic results - to be honest even if you’re only a modest drummer. An experienced drummer will make the sounds absolutely spring to life. Mapping will not be a problem at all. Essentially, this is the ‘system’ used by Keyfax to create all of the Twiddly.Bits libraries. MIDI, handled carefully, can create incredibly subtle, nuanced and inspiring material.

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Posted on: January 30, 2015 @ 04:59 PM
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thank you MM.
that is great news.
would you please possibly have any thoughts regarding setup.
I did check out my e-drum manual. did not not see much about this.

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Posted on: January 30, 2015 @ 05:18 PM
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chasmanian - 30 January 2015 02:42 PM

thank you very much.
I have a roland vdrum set.
I will check the manual.

Which model?

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Posted on: January 30, 2015 @ 05:19 PM
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TD15 KV

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Posted on: January 30, 2015 @ 06:24 PM
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chasmanian - 30 January 2015 05:19 PM

TD15 KV

I downloaded the TD-15 manual:
http://lib.roland.co.jp/support/en/manuals/res/62307132/TD-15_11_e02_W.pdf

Yamaha’s Motif drum kits won’t match the note numbering used by the TD-15. On page 22 of the TD-15 manual it explains how to change that for each pad. I’d suggest that you save a backup of the TD’s data before changing anything (page 38). Of course, you could always do a factory reset of the TD (page 46) if things go wrong.

This thread should help a lot in setting the TD’s MIDI note numbering to match the Motif:
http://www.motifator.com/index.php/forum/viewthread/470744/
If they’re off by 2 octaves, then changing the note number by 24 for each pad should get things back in alignment.

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Posted on: January 30, 2015 @ 07:51 PM
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wow!
you are so amazing.
thank you so much!!!!!

hey 5pinDIN, I must tell you,
I have been using Toontrack’s Superior Drummer 2 program with my Roland V-drums.
I will read that thread that you so generously posted a link to for me.
that said, any other thoughts with respect to my using the Superior Drummer 2 program with the Roland V-drums AND the Yamaha Motif XF8?

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Posted on: January 30, 2015 @ 08:48 PM
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chasmanian - 30 January 2015 07:51 PM

wow!
you are so amazing.
thank you so much!!!!!

hey 5pinDIN, I must tell you,
I have been using Toontrack’s Superior Drummer 2 program with my Roland V-drums.
I will read that thread that you so generously posted a link to for me.
that said, any other thoughts with respect to my using the Superior Drummer 2 program with the Roland V-drums AND the Yamaha Motif XF8?

You’re welcome.

I wasn’t familiar with Superior Drummer 2, so I took a look at Toontrack’s website. It looks interesting, but since I’ve never used it I can’t really comment further. Between the XF and some libraries, I have a sufficient collection of such sounds that I don’t anticipate a need for more - at this time :-) .

Everyone has a different need for such things, so you really have to decide for yourself what mix of hardware and software best fills it. Also, that’s likely to vary from project to project.

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Posted on: January 30, 2015 @ 09:04 PM
chasmanian
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ah yes.
roger all that you said.
thank you again.
this is such a golden age for musicians.

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