Sorry if I’m in the wrong place to ask this question. I’m a newbie.
I bought a MO8 and love it so far. I also own an older PSR 550 which I learned on. My question is this, on my 550 I can change from lets say, a piano to an organ voice during play, the piano voice will continue to ring as I hold it after changing patches, then the keyboard will be in organ mode essentially the organ will blend in with the fading piano notes.
With my MO8, the second I hit another patch, that voice is cut off and the new patch is activated. This leaves “ empty holes “ if you will, during live performance. Is there a name for this effect and can I activate it on the MO so as long as I hold the chord it will ring even when hitting a patch button?  Sorry for the long explanation. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
I’m a guitar player for 40 years and have been dabbling on the piano for 10 or 12 yrs. So I’m not up on all the technical stuff.

thnx

With my MO8, the second I hit another patch, that voice is cut off and the new patch is activated. This leaves “ empty holes “ if you will, during live performance. Is there a name for this effect and can I activate it on the MO so as long as I hold the chord it will ring even when hitting a patch button?  Sorry for the long explanation. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Yes there is a name for this but is is not “bleeding” but we know what you are talking about. Bleeding in audio is when unwanted audio invades the domain of another piece of audio.

On your PSR the architecture is a lot simpler than on your MO8. The PSR has just general (overall effects), the effects on the MO are much more integrated into the VOICE architecture (Yamaha use the word “Voice”, not “patch”, when referring to a playable instrument sound).

A MO8 Voice is made up of as many as four oscillators (tone sources) each could be routed through the Effect processing available in a unique way, say you create a Voice where two oscillators (Elements) are going to a PhaseShifter, and two of the oscillators are going to Rotary Speaker effect. The first 2 Elements are used to recreate an electric piano, thus the Phase Shifter, and the other 2 are recreating a B3, thus the rotary Speaker… Then the entire Voice could be routed through the overall effects (System effects)

Your PSR has the System (overall) effects so switching from one Voice to another does not cause any major issues.
The MO has much more intracate routing, because not only can each Oscillator be routed on its own path through the INSERT effects, before going on to the System (wide) Effect. The Insert Effects can be controlled in real time by your knobs, wheels, pedals, etc.

With this complexity of routing comes the trade off - moving from one Voice to another comes with the interruption of sound… (if you do this in single Voice mode) More effects, more flexibility in routing, more subtle details… When you switch from one Voice program to another an All Sound Off message is sent. That all said....

Your desire to move from one Voice to another is a legitmate one, musically it is desirable, even though in the real world you could not switch instruments seamlessly, as performers we expect our technology to do the impossible!!!!  In the old days keyboard players would have to carry multiple keyboards to accomplish this! It is a very common request, that the technology is able to deal with…

So here is how:

Because it is the complexity of the signal routing within the basic playable sound, that causes the interruption in Audi signal when a program change occurs, you can easily get around this in the MO by calling multiple sounds up simultaneously… This way there will be no interruption in sounds as you move between them

In VOICE mode you can only play a single Voice program. If all four oscillators are dedicated to a single sound, a single piano or a single organ.

In PERFORMANCE mode you can recall as many as four VOICES, (each with a volume slider) you should be able to navigate between 4 Voices pretty smoothly

In SONG/PATTERN mode, you can set up a MIXING program that contains as many as 16 of your favorite Voices, you can in this mode seamlessly switch between sound by using the numbered buttons, [1]-[16], to activate a sound.

Say you have piano in PART 1, the Organ in PART 2
You press TRACK 1 to play the piano sound, you can hold a chord, either with you hands or with the sustain pedal, touch button [2] the piano will continue to ring, while you now play the organ. The piano will continue to ring until you release the keys or you release the sustain pedal.

You can seamlessly switch between 16 Voices in this manner.

Each of the 64 Songs and each of the 64 Patterns can contain a different MIXING setup - each with its own 16 Part multi-timbral MIXING program.

Hope that explains a bit more about both your PSR and your MO. You can seamlessly move between sounds on the MO, and that is the reason it has more MODES… Each Mode has its own raison d’être (purpose).

Try switching between electric and acoustic guitars… So that the electric is still ringing that last chord while you strap on that acoustic ... You can’t do that in the real world, but you can on the MO!!!

:-) hope that helps and welcome to the forums!

Thanks so much for your detailed response. I think I understand the theory of what your saying. I still have a long way to go before I’ll know this instrument inside and out but you have given me something to work on.

Thanks again!

Bad Mister, I wrote a while back on the issue of the Mo8 being programmed so notes (chords) would ring through and fade after hitting patch button for next voice so there is no abrupt cutting off of sound during live play.
I figured out how to implement the instructions you gave me on programming in the pattern mode.  The issue now is this :

When using the sustain pedal, the previous voice does not fade away even when foot is off pedal and no fingering is applied. Piano sounds linger a while and organs just play steady. Tapping on sustain pedal does nothing to stop it. So this renders the operation unusable. I’ve tried several sustain pedals all with same result. Is there a flaw in my MO8? Or is there an operation more specific to what I am trying to accomplish. I am using pattern mode/mix and following the manuals directions.
Maybe I have a glitch in my Mo.
Thanks.
Chris

There’s no glitch; mine does the same thing.  I was so excited when I thought there was a workaround for the patch-changing issue.  :-(

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