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tommymandel
Total Posts: 81
Joined 01-15-2003 status: Experienced |
I’m an old Classic user and programmer, just got an XS Rack. I’ve been doing great getting up to speed on this, a very different beast than the Classic. (Phil - I still remember seeing you doing a workshop at Manny’s explaining Master Mode, when the Motif first came out. (I think I bought mine at Sam Ash in White Plains, but not right after that. I didn’t ‘get it’ that quickly.)) I’ve read and searched, and understand that the Motif Keyboard’s sliders are dedicated to controlling Element Levels in Voice Mode, and they do it through Sysex, not CC Data, which is why it’s not something easily ported over to another controller. This Motifator Forum member, andiho, did create a Template to control an XS Rack, for the Novation ReMOTE SL series. I downloaded it, and it’s Great!!! However, AFAIK, it’s not a complete set of controls. It uses the 1st 4 of the ReMOTE SL’s 8 sliders to control Voice 1-4 Volume Levels in MultiMode, and Sliders 5-8 are unassigned. I just wrote to him, asking if he’d be interested in further tweaking of his Template, for enormous compensation of course ;), and am hoping to hear back from him. But in the meantime, is there any advice (sysex strings) you could give me/us?
I tried a few things:
Is there something I’m missing? (ha! - of course there is! - otherwise it would be working for me, lol.) Could you tell me how I might be able to do it? Thanks a million. Tommy Mandel, nyc * F0 43 10 6B 41 (00,01,02...07) 20 7F F7 |
tommymandel
Total Posts: 81
Joined 01-15-2003 status: Experienced |
Bad Mister, I guess I’m hoping that you would chime in here. If there’s absolutely no way to address the individual Element volume levels in a Voice via MIDI, sysex included, NPN, RPN included, (which I’d learn how to do by myself with a nod from you that it’s possible) then I will try to trade this excellent XS Rack for an ES6. I can’t stress how useful the 4 sliders are in playing organ from the Motif. I’m sure I don’t have to, as I’ve heard you play. Thanks again. |
tommymandel
Total Posts: 81
Joined 01-15-2003 status: Experienced |
(...short of making a Multi out of many single Element Voices, & turning off Parts 1-4 receive on Basic Channel...) |
Bad_Mister
Total Posts: 36620
Joined 07-30-2002 status: Moderator |
In Voice mode the Motif XS sliders send System Exclusive messages to control ELEMENT level.
Okay that said, if you want to control Element level of the Motif-Rack XS from an external device, you would need to send it System Exclusive messages that correspond to the Motif-Rack XS (not the Motif Classic… that would be an entirely different product ID ant that is why it did not work) System Exclusive messages include a Product ID. So a message for a Motif Classic would be meaningless to a Motif-Rack XS. F0 43 10 7F 03 41 ee 20 dd F7
Where ‘ee’ is the Element 1-8 (00-07)
F0 = start of exclusive message
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tommymandel
Total Posts: 81
Joined 01-15-2003 status: Experienced |
Thank you SO much, Bad Mister !! !!! !! !!! Followed your instructions and it’s working. |
andiho
Total Posts: 18
Joined 05-29-2009 status: Regular |
Hi,
But im very happy that my remote-sl template is still in use ;-9
Mayby we can help us prgramming the ultimate remote-sl-template für the rack! ;-) So, rock on and have fun Andi |
tommymandel
Total Posts: 81
Joined 01-15-2003 status: Experienced |
Andi, I am posting an .smf of a RemoteSL MkI dump that I just did:
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tommymandel
Total Posts: 81
Joined 01-15-2003 status: Experienced |
The file did not attach, not sure why, but maybe its file name was too long. I’ve shortened it’s filename and .zip’d it, and am trying again. Again, it’s AndiHo’s 2 Templates for a Novation RemoteSL MkI to control a RackXS, with a few tweaks I tried to add, based on Bad Mister’s hexidecimal information. File Attachments
AHrackXStweakTM.mid.zip (File Size: 1KB - Downloads: 441) |
andiho
Total Posts: 18
Joined 05-29-2009 status: Regular |
Hi tommymandel,
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tommymandel
Total Posts: 81
Joined 01-15-2003 status: Experienced |
darn! sorry andi. how do i dump as a .syx file? |
andiho
Total Posts: 18
Joined 05-29-2009 status: Regular |
You can save a .syx-file in the novation remote editor software. |
tommymandel
Total Posts: 81
Joined 01-15-2003 status: Experienced |
Here it is, Andi. File Attachments
RemoteSLtweaks.zip (File Size: 3KB - Downloads: 395) |
tommymandel
Total Posts: 81
Joined 01-15-2003 status: Experienced |
It may not be an improvement over your originals, but it helps me do some things that i always did with my Motif Classic keyboard, that, till now I couldn’t do on the Rack XS. Thanks again for your guidance here. |
fosfen
Total Posts: 19
Joined 01-15-2011 status: Regular |
Hey I also have this combo, Remote SL 37 and Motif XS, both rack and classic versions. I did make a template a while ago but I don’t have it here right now. I’ll try and remember to post it here when I get a chance. Just wanted to chime in since you guys also have these, we can definitely exchange some files and tips. |
fosfen
Total Posts: 19
Joined 01-15-2011 status: Regular |
I think this might be it, though I don’t have the gear home here to test this. File Attachments
Remote SL - Motif XS voice.zip (File Size: 1KB - Downloads: 419) |
andiho
Total Posts: 18
Joined 05-29-2009 status: Regular |
Thanks for your files. Will try them at the WE. |