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matje
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Hi, I have a midi question in Performance mode. I use a Nord Stage 3 and Motif XS6 on stage. Sometimes I want to use the sound from the stage but play it on the Motif. So in those cases I use the Motif as a midi controller for the Nord. The problem is that when tpu play the Motif, you also hear the Nord. That is not the way I want. So my idea was to make a performance. Just select one voice with volume 0. Is it possible to select in Performance mode a different outgoing midi channel then the general outgoing midi channel of the Motif? Thanks |
5pinDIN
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No - the Keyboard Transmit Channel is a global setting in Utility mode for both Voices and Performances.
You haven’t provided any details of your current setup.
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matje
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Yes, it is the same setup. But the problem is that we play songs very fast after eachother. I don’t have time the change midi channels in between. So for example: first songs I use the Motif as an external controller for the Nord, the next song I play both boards individual (so no midi needed). I have to change midi channels otherwise when I play the Motif you hear also the Nord. Does it mean you have always to change midi channels? |
5pinDIN
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Of course, if the XS transmits on the channel the Nord is receiving on, than playing the XS will also play the Nord. So yes, the MIDI channels can’t match in Voice or Performance modes.
Depending on your exact usage, Song or Pattern mode may fit your needs. In those modes you can set the Track transmit channel (TxCh), and (perhaps more importantly for you) whether MIDI data is sent internally or externally.
If for some reason that won’t suit your requirements, then Master mode might - it has even more flexibility for setting MIDI channels, etc. See
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matje
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Thanks for the answers. Is it possible to change the general outgoing midi channel by midi program changes. I use an Ipad and Forscore for all my scores. When changes the scores, a midi program change message is send to both keboards. Is it also possible to send a message to change the midi channel? |
5pinDIN
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A Program Change (PC) message, as its name suggests, changes the Program. It can’t change MIDI channels.
However, based on this…
The following XS SysEx message may be useful:
A similar message might be available for the Nord. |
matje
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Thanks. It works for me to send a midi program change message to define the midi out channel. Last question. I looked in the manual and fatalist, but can’t find it. Is it possible to send a program change message to select a specific song in song mode? |
5pinDIN
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Amazing. Do tell.
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I suggest that you read what’s below the Bank Select table on page 56 of the XS Data List. |
matje
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With each song in Forscore is send a message to set the midi sending channel to “off”. Only songs where I use the Motif as an controller, a message is send to set the midi sending channel on the desired number. In those songs I send also a program change to a voice in where al the volumes are set to 0. Works perfect! To looked in the data list to set also a specific song in song mode by idi messages. When I understand right you first have to send a parameter change messages to select song mode. Then you can send a program change message to select the wanted song. I thought the HEX message to select song mode would be 33 00 19 1 03. But thsi isn’t working. I still don’t know how ‘to read” midi parameter change table. |
5pinDIN
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As I said, Program Change messages can’t change the MIDI channel. Not surprisingly, that isn’t what you’re doing.
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That’s correct, if the XS isn’t already in Song mode. Otherwise, there’s no need to select the mode before selecting a Song.
To select the Mode on an XS set as device #1, send:
To select Song mode, send:
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No. As the Data List says under the Bank Select table (previously referred to), “The Song/Pattern can be selected only via the Song Select...”. However, the message shown (F3, 00-F3, 3F) may be a bit hard to interpret. This might be easier to understand…
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Three problems…
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matje
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I think I start to understand the whole thing. So first you send a midi message to set the Motif to Song mode: F0 43 10 7F 03 0A 00 01 03 F7 Then send a midi message to select the correct song (for example song 1): F0 43 10 7F 03 F3 00 3F F7 |
5pinDIN
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Yes, but only needed if the XS isn’t already in Song mode.
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No. The entire Song Select message is two bytes long.
If you want to learn more about MIDI, look online for tutorials. You could search for “MIDI system common messages” - Song Select is one of them. |